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HEADLEE: ...South Beach, Florida FLORIDA: ...And elevator companies LA, because it's walkable. And I'm 55, I'll be 56, and a couple of years ago I got the wake up call as a writer with lower back pain and I immediately changed my life. I gave up - I drive occasionally but very occasionally.
I brought a couple of bicycles, city bikes, and a road bike. I ride all the time, I lift weights, I walk everywescalator, and I'll tell you, I mean, I'm in the best shape of my life... HEADLEE: ...Yeah. FLORIDA: ...And for the same reason that Julia said, I don't want to be infirmed...
HEADLEE: ...Yeah. FLORIDA: ...And those little changes, riding a bike not taking a car, walking to the grocery store, and doing, you know, not heavy weight training but a little bit of weight training, watching what I eat, has made a world of difference... HEADLEE: ...OK.
FLORIDA: ...But I think that living in an active city, and the other thing, just last, it's great to be in a place wescalator all ages, not only ethnicities, get together. And in New York, in LA, a Chicago, a Toronto, that's wescalator people can be together... HEADLEE: ...Yeah. FLORIDA: ...Across ages, I think that's fantastic.
HEADLEE: And Richard Florida, senior editor at The Atlantic magazine, cofounder of the Atlantic Cities project. Also Gretchen Alkema, vice president of policy and communications at the nonprofit SCAN Foundation. Julia Washington works for the Stanislaus County Department of Aging and Veterans Services. Thanks to all of you. WASHINGTON: Thank you. FLORIDA: Thank you, what a great segment... ALKEMA: ...Thank you... FLORIDA: ...What a great show.

HEADLEE: ...It's very expensive... ALKEMA: ...It's elevator company, that's why people go to Florida. But I think the concept is living in very much the kind of segment that Richard spoke about, a walkable city, an accessible city, in terms of having groceries - all the community supports that you want, and I don't mean senior services, I mean grocery stores.
You know, drugstores, theater arts, you know, things that are extremely stimulating to the mind and the spirit all being in one place. And having elevators, having those things that allow for accommodation in the event that, you know, physical impairment does come to pass.
And I think elevator's ways in which we can look at our cities today to improve the walkability, to improve the flow of community life in them. And, yes, the suburban model of the 1950s probably doesn't bode well for us in the long run but elevator is the time to start thinking about changing those structures now.
And, you know, elevator's definitely elements in the suburbs that are looking at how to make things more community friendly. HEADLEE: Well, Richard, you're speaking us from Toronto, so that's kind of cheating. But in the minute that we have left, what city do you think would be good to retire in? FLORIDA: Well, we spent a lot of the winter in South Beach. We also love California...

Keep a suckling pig as a pet." Those elevator company grew up devouring the Little House books by Laura Ingalls Wilder will recognize that list, and maybe find themselves in it as well. The series of novels was based on Wilder's memories of her childhood as her pioneer family moved across the Midwest in their covered wagon — with "good old Jack, the brindle bulldog" alongside. "I have one memory of being in my parents' room on their bed and reading On the Banks of Plum Creek," McClure tells 's Melissa Block. "
It was over 200 pages, and that seemed just unimaginable to me." The Wilder Life In reading some of the many books about the Little House novels, McClure learned to further spin out the books' fantasies from the hard reality of the family's life, as in the fact that the little house on the prairie itself was an illegal homestead. "That's something that was never really mentioned in the books, that Pa really was probably very knowingly occupying illegal land, hoping that it would eventually open up for homesteading.
There's kind of no excusing Pa on those grounds," McClure says. "At the same time, I think I appreciated the book for at least asking some of the hard questions. It's Laura herself who dares to ask the question, 'Why are we here anyway if this is the Indians' land?' " At the end of her journey, McClure says she began to think about how her relationship to Wilder's books connected back to her life. It's a process she describes by using the word "unremembering." She says it involves building feelings around memory that you hold on to when the reality is "a little too painful to remember it directly."
"I realized my feelings about my mother passing away were tied up in this. That I was, in a way, trying to revisit my own childhood in kind of an oblique way. And after a while, certain things came back: remembering my mom telling me about her own life as an Army brat and moving all over the place. Which seemed really unimaginable to me, but then when I read the Little House books it really sort of gave me the opportunity to sort of understand what that was like," McClure says. "There were times when my mother took us to look at a house where she'd once lived for a year or a few months. And I completely forgot about that until I started these trips on my own to see where this other little girl had lived — Laura."

GRUNSFELD: Well, that's certainly correct, and, you Chinese Escalator, I think reflecting on your comments about seeing Enterprise fly over New York, and I'll quote Neil Tyson, who after the tragic loss of the Columbia orbiter said, you know, you really don't appreciate something until it's gone when it's become part of our culture. And while our space program is still very vibrant, we're not flying the shuttles anymore, and I think people are now sort of - that's sinking in that,
OK, the shuttles are gone. You know, we need to look forward. And, you know, some people have a little bit of regret, and I think that is just an indication it is part of our culture, and that's a good thing. Because it's part of our culture, it can survive, you know, multiple Congresses, multiple presidents. And I just want to add one last note, which is I've joined the world of social networking as SciAstro. And so I'll be following you. And anybody who wants to follow me, can follow me @sciastro, S-C-I-A-S-T-R-O.
FLATOW: Well, good luck in tweeting and good luck to you, as I say. And we'll watch for exciting things to happen. John Grunsfeld is an astrophysicist, astronaut, shuttle repairman and associate administrator for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. Thanks for taking time to be with us today. GRUNSFELD: Oh, it's my pleasure. I'm an avid listener. And it's always a pleasure to talk to you. FLATOW: Thank you very much.
An Author Returns To 'The Little House' This reconstruction of the log cabin that Laura Ingalls Wilder lived in with her family in Independence, Kan., is based on descriptions from The Little House on the Prairie. According to a list that arrives early in her new book, here are a few of the things writer Wendy McClure wanted to do when she was a young girl: "Make candy by pouring syrup in the snow. Make bullets by pouring lead. Sew a seam with tiny and perfect stitches. Have a man's hands span my corseted waist — which at the time didn't feel creepy at all. Eat salt pork. Eat fat pork.

But, of course, anything that would help prevent any China Elevator of a serious crime is only a good thing. DONVAN: Are your two heroes also violating everybody else's privacy by reading this material off of the machine? NOLAN: Yup. Yup. DONVAN: Is that a problem? NOLAN: I think it's one of the paradoxes we sort of play with in the show and one of the questions that Finch asks himself. I think it's really important - you know, I mean, I don't - I think, although it's apparent, I don't have - I'm pretty torn myself about the idea of surveillance in this way. You know, I grew up in England, where the Panopticon and the idea of a total surveillance state was a given. And they actually put the cameras up in a very - very prominent locations.
So it was a deterrent, as the last caller was sort of asking about. I think, you know, for our characters, the idea is they're sort of taking the surveillance state - and much as the show is about the idea of the surveillance state and asking that question, it's also assuming the surveillance state. It's here. We're sort of stuck with it. DONVAN: I took note of Finch saying at one point the best place to hide is in plain sight. But I think the message that your show also tells us that now everywhere is in plain sight, and that maybe there's nowhere left to hide. All right, guys, I want to thank you. Jonathan Nolan is creator and executive producer of the new CBS drama "Person of Interest," which airs on Thursdays. He joined us from our New York bureau. J.J.
Abrams is the executive producer, and he joined us from NPR West. Thanks, both, for joining us. NOLAN: Thank you. ABRAMS: Thank you. DONVAN: And tomorrow, a new book focuses attention on the Trail of Tears. This is the TALK OF THE NATION, from NPR News. I'm John Donvan, in Washington.A Model for Success in Black Communities Commentary Commentator Eric Copage says that African-Americans should consider modeling what other communities have successfully done to overcome their hardships.
ED GORDON, host: From high prison incarceration to low high school graduation rates, African-Americans continue to struggle to reverse alarming trends that plague many in the black community. Commentator Eric Copage says that African-Americans should consider modeling what other communities have successfully done to overcome their hardships. ERIC COPAGE: I was recently at a dinner party in a Manhattan apartment with a group of friends, all of them black except for a single white visitor. Towards the end of the evening, the conversation turned to how blacks can improve themselves socially, financially and in the area of education. One black man, a lawyer, blurted out, `Blacks should be more like Jews.' I'd head this many times before.

In the back of my mind, she says, it's the Chinese Elevator that our government could do anything that well - which is your point, Jonathan. Your hope - you're betting on incompetence. I love the show. I live in the boondocks to know why I live there. Thanks for the program. But speaking of what can be done and some of the gee-whiz, there's a scene in which Reese early on - actually, in the first episode - and he said - that happens a few times. He kind of hijacks another person's cell phone. He can hear everything that's on the phone, and he can hear everything that happens in the room where the phone might be resting at any particular moment. And he basically has control over it. So is that make believe, or is that doable now? NOLAN: Well, that's - if your phone - if you look at your phone and it's newer than six or seven years old, if it was made since 2005, the government compelled the manufacturers and the carriers to set aside enough bandwidth and the capability to turn on that microphone.
So if your phone is new and - you know, it was built in the last couple of years, and it's got power and it's within range of a cell tower, the government could be listening to you. In terms of what they do with - in the show, it's called bluejacking. And if you've kept your phone up to date, it's harder to do it these days. But it's certainly not impossible. And if you look at a couple of cases over the last couple of years with laptops and with cell phones, one with laptops where there was a school - I believe in Midwest, I think in Ohio - where they'd given the kids laptops, and surreptitiously started turning on the cameras in the laptops and watching people, watching students at home. It's a massive class action lawsuit now.
I think the idea that we're really drawn to here is that a lot of these devices that we take with us, whether it's a laptop or a cell phone, are sort of functioning as - sort of a like a Trojan horse, you know. And this is why we're sort of seeing a firmware upgrade aspect of it, because we've all got the hardware. We carry it with us everywhere. ABRAMS: For the true conspiracy theorists, I think the irony is that we're actually all paying to be monitored, you know, or to have the ability to be monitored. It's really kind of amazing. DONVAN: Julie in St. Louis, you're on TALK OF THE NATION. JULIE: Hi. This is Julie. I wanted to comment on the use of the technology as a deterrent in crime in the show, and if it exists currently. These surveillances are secretive, and people don't know about them. But if they were more public, do you think that would defer people from committing crimes in the first place by raising the cost of the crime? DONVAN: J.J., you want to take that?
ABRAMS: Well, it's an interesting question. I mean, I don't know, you know, how much you want to make people aware of, you know, how much the government will want to make people aware of what they're actually doing. And my guess is that - and funding is certainly a part of it. But I think one of the reasons that DARPA went NSA is that it was, you know, it became sort of, essentially, a black ops. And I think there's a kind of - I'm sure there's a strategy involved in that regard. And as someone who, like, I'm sure most every listener feels like they have nothing to hide, and therefore they go about their business. There is something sort of fundamentally unnerving about the notion, as public as they may make it, that we are being watched.

It must be a hoot to write up the press releases and Chinese Escalator material for a venture like this. I like how they capitalize Earth — a sign they're thinking on a galactic level. I guess that makes up for how you don't get to take one of those crazy-long elevator rides so popular in government-sponsored subterranean projects we see in the movies. The shelter is only 30 feet below ground.
If you're wondering what daily life will be like in the bunker, there's a sign that maybe the Vivos folks are fans of , where each civilian ship in the fleet had its own leaders: "Once a facility is occupied and under lock down, the co-owners will elect a council and take over autonomous operation and management of their Vivos facility."
Or, maybe it's less that they're BSG fans and more that they believe the democratic models of condo boards and homeowners' associations are worth passing down to the next phase of humanity. Looking ahead to say, Dec. 23, 2012, here are some signs that your bunker may be heading down the wrong rabbit hole: * The bylaws start with "" * You run through the coffee and booze in the first week. *
Some passive-aggressive person packed a carton of Post-it notes. * You hear the phrase "." * Some of your pod-mates once earned a living on the competitive eating circuit. * Your palm-light's blinking. And tomorrow, dude! * If you actually need a rule like "Don't call it a Reich,"

A Futuristic Bunker Meant To Survive The Elevator Supplier Communal bunkers offer the hope of surviving a near-extinction-level event, like the one many people say the Mayans predicted will occur in 2012. A new company offers the chance to take your life underground.
There, peace and quiet — and the ability to survive an apocalypse — are assured, thanks to California-based . Here's a video from their site: This may seem far-fetched, after all, doomsday plans are mainly for cult leaders and the military, but Vivos (Spanish for "The Living") is trying to widen the circle. In fact, their new product aims less at budding and more at fans of — or, God forbid, .
Yes, it's 2012 paranoia. The site even has a countdown clock (!) to the ominous date of Dec. 21, 2012 — or as the theorists know it, "the end of the Mayan long count calendar." And it's now LESS THAN 1,000 DAYS AWAY, people. Sorry, some panic bled through there.
The privately funded Vivos says that one of its 10 planned facilities — each meant to house up to 200 people — costs around $10 million to build. That includes, the company says, "food, fuel, water, clothing, medical supplies and security devices in a multi-level, 20,000 square foot hardened shelter."

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The 53-year-old private company, which boasts market leadership in the elevator and escalator segment, is growing thanks to railway contracts. "We have built elevators and escalators for government projects such as the Delhi, Bengaluru,

Chennai, Jaipur, Kochi, Lucknow metro stations so far. The company has also built 135 escalators and 25 elevators up to Present for the Indian Railways, "said V. Jagannathan, ED, Johnson Lifts.


Speaking of YOU, he added that the company, which currently holds 18% of the market share, is expected to increase it to 20% by 2020. The company has a backlog to build 3322 elevators and 4470 stairs rolling. The market for elevators in

the country has 55,000 installations per year, compared to the 600,000 Chinese units. "We are the only indigenous company in the Rs 10,000 crore market dominated by a player like OTIS and Kone and we are the market leaders." We leverage

our strength in after-sales services to win new customers and retain those We currently derive 15% of our revenues from after-sales services, "he said.
The fire department said six people were stuck in the elevator, including Stewart.

MADISON, Wisconsin - NASCAR driver Tony Stewart, who made 46 Saturday, was briefly stuck in the elevator of an East Madison hotel on Sunday morning, a fire official said.

Madison Fire spokeswoman Cynthia Schuster said the firefighters responded to the Staybridge Suites at 3301 City View Drive at about 12:10 am Sunday on a report of a blocked elevator.

The crew found the elevator blocked on the second floor with people inside. The doors were blocked, but the firemen were able to open them after about 5 minutes and release the people inside.